14B.7.2 6.5 M Clarification II

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Started 22 Nov 18:12

For the moment a games ends with the whistle of the timer (or [not in the rulebook so far, but in practice] by the horn of the automatic timer of the scoreboard.)

14C.2.4 The Timer "At the end of each period, the Timer stops the game by blowing the whistle."

An already by the referee given 6.5 should not be stopped the performance of the 6.5 m by the timer with his whistle blow for the end of the game.

In my opinion a given 6.5m should be finalized also if the game has been ended.

Comment 22 Nov 18:42

Agreed 100%

Comment 24 Nov 17:56

Good input Herbert. We could generally take a timeout for executing a 6.5m. Often, the referees have to discuss the situation anyway and for that they should take a timeout.

As soon as the free shot is done, the time starts again. Very easy, and solves the problem. What do you think?

Comment 29 Nov 07:39

Christian: "Often, the referees have to discuss the situation anyway and for that they should take a timeout." 100% agreed and this is my normal behaviour if there is a minimum of a doubt left (e.g. only corner or penalty goal). After such a situation the referee often requires anyway time to calm the players down. For the moment I think this is more a matter of good judging and practice than for a rule.

I dislike to open here a discussion on Game Duration (14B.8.1). "It is a relative play time. The time only stops if the Referee requests a time out." If we like to disuse "relative play time", "effective play time" or all the situations a "time out" should be used, we should open a separate discussion.

My thoughts to begin this discussion are to execute a 6.5m always (as contrasted to a free shot), also if the play time is over more like a juristic act or juristic second than extended time.

I would like to add after the last sentence of 14B.7.2: "A given 6.5 m has to be finalized although the play time of a period has been ended and if no goal is scored, the game must not continue."

Comment 01 Dec 14:11

I also think executing a given 6.5m also after the time is up is fair.

Comment 09 Dec 04:20

I also agree. Here is my attempt to integrate the new rule into 14B.7.2:

OLD:

If no goal is scored, play continues as soon as the ball touches the
post, the keeper touches the ball or the ball crosses the extended goal
line.

NEW:

If no goal is scored, the execution of the 6.5 m ends as soon as the
ball touches the post, the keeper touches the ball or the ball crosses
the extended goal line. Play continues after the 6.5 m. If the play time
of a period ended after the referee has awarded the 6.5 m, it is still
executed but play does not continue afterwards.

Comment 10 Dec 16:27

Slightly shorter new:

"If no goal is scored, play continues as soon as the ball touches the
post, the keeper touches the ball or the ball crosses the extended goal
line. An awarded 6.5 m is still executed but the play does not continue afterwards."

Comment 12 Dec 16:06

14B.7.2 6.5 M

If legal playing would have led to a direct chance to score a goal, a “6.5 m” is given.

This includes fouls outside the goal area. The ball is placed at the 6.5 m mark. A player

of the defending team goes to the goal and must sit with the bottom of the wheel of

their unicycle within 0.5 m of the goal line. The other team chooses a player to shoot

the 6.5 m. All other players must leave the goal area. After the Referee’s whistle the

goalkeeper must ride the unicycle freely and not rest on the goal. If no goal is scored,

play continues as soon as the ball touches the post, the keeper touches the ball or the

ball crosses the extended goal line.

A 6.5 m awarded at the end of, or after a time period has ended is still executed but play does not continue after an unsuccessful goal."

Comment 24 Dec 06:13

I think Stevens suggestion is the most accurate and clear one. I would replace "goal" by "shot".

14B.7.2 6.5 M:

... A 6.5 m awarded at the end of, or after a time period has ended is still executed but play does not continue after an unsuccessful shot.

Comment 24 Dec 09:18

I prefer "shot" as well.

Comment 24 Dec 16:34

shot works

Comment 24 Dec 18:06

I have a question. What is the meaning of "after a time period has
ended"? Is the referee still allowed to award a 6.50 m _after_ the game?
Or only if he already blew the whistle _before_ the game ended?

Comment 25 Dec 04:08

The meaning of "after a time period has ended" means that a referee can award a 6.50m penalty after the timer has signalled the end of the time period. Because we rarely stop the timer it is quite possible that a big foul that would lead to a 6.5 may be performed in the last ~30 seconds and as long as the referee doesnt award a 6.5m before the timer rings the team gets away with it.

It quite often takes discussion between two referees before giving a 6.5m penalty so it often takes up to 30sec for one to be awarded. Allowing a referee to give a 6.5 after the buzzer ensures no teams will commit fouls in the last instances of the game to waste the remaining time.

Comment 01 Jan 17:20

Can this go to proposal?

Comment 01 Jan 19:39

Rolf: "Or only if he already blew the whistle _before_ the game ended?" A whistle blow has to happen as a reaction on a situation during the play time. Maybe the referees require some time to get it sorted out what really has happen and the play time has been finished. If the result is a free shot or a face-off - sorry play time is over. If a penalty goal has to be given, no problem with. If a 6.5m has to be given this should be executed after the time period/game normally has been ended. "Is the referee still allowed to award a 6.50 m _after_ the game?" >Yes!